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Real life Doom!
So, I had to go down to Ft. Lost in the Woods Leonard Wood, MO, to do Urban Warfare Tactics training. IE: Run through a mock town and try not to die. While killing the Nazi/commies/Charlies/insurgents. Now the training was all cool, but when it came for the practical application... Well, guess who took one little step and got killed by the sniper on the roof first?

... Yeah, me. So, let me say this for getting killed like that:

D00D! I WUZ SNIPED! CH8TRZ! WALLHACK!!!!1!!1!!!eleventy!

Meh. Next time we go, I'm getting up on one of the higher roofs and "returning the favor."

MGRS: on the main system

14 targets down / Shoot one off?
comekah From: comekah Date: April 24th, 2006 09:40 pm (UTC) (Link)
How? By falling off the roof and landing on somebody? Oh, wait, hax0rz, you'll fall *through* them and quite possibly the floor. ;)
degreeabsolute From: degreeabsolute Date: April 24th, 2006 11:29 pm (UTC) (Link)
So how was the dying-without-yaknow-Dying achieved? Paintballs? Lasers?
arjei From: arjei Date: April 24th, 2006 11:49 pm (UTC) (Link)
Real bullets. I was actually dead. They used some Resident Evil-type shit to bring me back. ;p

Really, lasers. Though paintball wouldv'e been equally fun. Hell, several people, including myself, were wondering how well a paintball game would go there.
jchance From: jchance Date: April 25th, 2006 12:13 am (UTC) (Link)
That _does_ sound like fun...but the most-geeky part of my mind says that the travel delay and very unflat trajectories would mess it up as a training exercise.
arjei From: arjei Date: April 25th, 2006 04:05 am (UTC) (Link)
Lasers aren't really much better, since it's speed of light and a straight beam. A M-16's trajectory curves up, then back down. (The bullet at 300m is once again level with the barrel of the gun, IIRC.)

Paintball's just more fun because you can see when the shot lands, the gear doesn't "fail" on the trainers like the lasers do, and you can turn someone into a shitty example of expressionism. ;p
pantherwill From: pantherwill Date: April 25th, 2006 06:28 pm (UTC) (Link)
You'll never see them do paintball. Uniforms cost too much, ya know.
arjei From: arjei Date: April 25th, 2006 06:57 pm (UTC) (Link)
Nah, they did paintball (or something akin to it) down in Alabama. Some of the people who weren't going to Eglin got to go up against a special forces unit from Florida. They used specialized M4 carbines with paintball "bullets" in one of the old MP training areas.

So it's doable, just who will they do it for is the question. :P
From: brownkitty Date: April 24th, 2006 11:30 pm (UTC) (Link)
Did you at least get someone to booby-trap your body with a grenade or something?
arjei From: arjei Date: April 24th, 2006 11:51 pm (UTC) (Link)
I wish. I was killed all the way at the other end of the compound, too far from the building they were camping in. The only thing I could do was sit there and bitch about the death.
axiszer0 From: axiszer0 Date: April 25th, 2006 03:45 am (UTC) (Link)
Gee, thats hard.
I've heard of snipers who can take people down 1km away.

What were you equipped with then?
arjei From: arjei Date: April 25th, 2006 04:11 am (UTC) (Link)
Just basic battle gear: M-16, kevlar, LBV, mask, and laser (MILES) gear for the training.

I believe he had a M24 sniper rifle. And he got a lot after he got me. (Albeit not until 5 minutes after I was killed.)
axiszer0 From: axiszer0 Date: April 25th, 2006 07:55 am (UTC) (Link)
No smokes? No moving in squads? No counter snipers!?

While serving the armed forces during my national service, I learnt to stay out of sight - period.

Almost no one ever saw me =D

2 scenarios:
1. The movement must be so utterly good that enemy is not alerted until the very last second.

2. Create distractions for the sniper; smokes, cover fire, moving objects, heck, even a flashbang if you know which general direction. But this is bound to alert others.

The guy must be a marksman.. and he might have at least 1 or 2 people covering him as well, esp in a fortified environment..
arjei From: arjei Date: April 25th, 2006 07:04 pm (UTC) (Link)
We, nor the trainers had smoke or any kind of pyro. We didn't have any, and range control fucked up a bit so they couldn't get any.

But we had something like squad movement, but we used the entire compaany. (There was only 40 of us.) We were going to try multiple entries, but they changed the rules at the last minute and had us only doing one entry.

And I didn't think of the counter-sniper until after I was killed. And I was debating on whether or not to cheat, grab and extra MILES gear key, and go sniping anyways.
axiszer0 From: axiszer0 Date: April 26th, 2006 02:44 am (UTC) (Link)
In war, is there such a thing called cheating?

Snipe away, my good man, snipe away..
14 targets down / Shoot one off?